The Hayley Lloyd Show

Manifesting A 7 Figure Business With Biddy Tarot Founder: Brigit Esselmont

Hayley Lloyd

Brigit Esselmont is an intuitive entrepreneur and best-selling author of Everyday Tarot, as well as the founder of Biddy Tarot, a seven-figure business that has empowered millions worldwide to trust their intuition and access their inner power. Her mission is to bring Tarot into the mainstream as a modern, intuitive tool for purpose-driven individuals, helping them live life to their fullest potential—no crystal balls required. 

Brigit’s expertise has been featured in outlets like Huffington Post, Mind Body Green, and the Being Boss podcast. With over a decade in business, she’s also a Master Practitioner in NLP and Hypnosis and has appeared on stages across the US and Australia. When she’s not teaching or coaching, Brigit enjoys life on the Sunshine Coast, Australia, with her husband and two daughters.

Links:
https://www.biddytarot.com 
https://www.instagram.com/biddytarot 
https://www.facebook.com/biddytarot 
https://www.youtube.com/biddytarot

Resources:
1. Download the 4 Steps to Intuitive Manifesting - https://biddytarot.com/4steps

2. Pre-Order Intuitive Manifesting and receive over $3000 worth of bonuses - https://biddytarot.com/preordernow

Our conversation weaves through the practical application of tarot in business settings, showcasing its potential to align ambitions with personal values, beyond the pursuit of profit. 

With actionable advice, we discuss how tarot readings can aid in holistic decision-making and reflect our subconscious states. Bridget and I exchange experiences on interpreting tarot readings, emphasizing trust in one’s intuition even amidst confusion or unexpected outcomes, and the lessons these cards can hold.

Finally, we address maintaining a balanced daily tarot practice that prevents dependency, advocating for introspection over prediction. 

Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome back to the podcast. I have a really cool episode for you guys today where I'm getting to interview someone that has been a massive inspiration for me for at least the past couple of years whilst I have been learning tarot. Now, for any of you that have been listening to this podcast for a while, you will know that I did a series of episodes a while back where I actually used tarot to basically inform the episode and give like messages for the collective. Tarot has been like such a huge journey that I have personally been on and it has been a really big part of me growing my business as well, and specifically over the last two years, I have spent a lot of time learning tarot and really trying to memorize the actual meanings of all of the different tarot cards, but trying to also come up with my own perspectives and meanings for the cards as well. Now, there are a lot of different tools that you can learn tarot through, but the main one that I personally have used is a website called Biddy Tarot. Biddy Tarot is essentially a website that you can go to and learn all things tarot. It gives you the definitions of each of the cards and how to start actually interpreting these cards for yourself, biddy. Tarot has essentially been my Bible for the last couple of years, as I have been learning tarot and it has become a daily part of my life, and there are some things that I noticed about my own relationship with tarot over the past couple of years that I've had a lot of questions about, and I have had the complete honor of having Bridget on the podcast and being able to ask her my burning questions. Not only that, but this is also a really cool manifestation for myself.

Speaker 1:

We talk a lot about manifestation within this episode because Bridget is the author of a new book called Intuitive Manifesting author of a new book called Intuitive Manifesting. So manifestation is a big theme that we're talking about and how you can actually use tarot to help you manifest in your every single day life. But just to give you guys a little bit of context, a couple of weeks back I was chatting with a really great friend of mine. We went for coffee and she was telling me how she had become friends with Bridget because she actually lives in the same country as us she lives in Australia as well and I remember being like, oh, I would really love to connect with Bridget in some way and I just put the intention out to the universe and literally two weeks later, I received a message into my inbox from Bridget herself pitching herself to come onto this podcast. So I'm so excited that this manifestation has come to fruition so quickly. Like manifestation is just it works, guys. It works.

Speaker 1:

But before we go into the actual episode, I want to give you guys a little bit of an inclination into who Bridget is and what she does. So she is an intuitive entrepreneur and best-selling author of Everyday Tarot, as well as the founder of Biddy Tarot, which is a seven-figure business that has empowered millions of people worldwide to trust their intuition and access their inner power, and her mission is to bring Tarot into the mainstream as a modern, intuitive tool for purpose-driven individuals, helping them to live life to their fullest potential. No crystal balls required. Bridget's expertise has been featured in outlets like Huffington Post, mindbodygreen and the being Bossed podcast. With over a decade in business, she's also a master practitioner in NLP and hypnosis and has appeared on stages across the US and Australia. So, as you can hear, bridget not only has founded a tool that I use every single day, but she is also a serial entrepreneur and has had huge success.

Speaker 1:

So, without further ado, let's get into the podcast, because this is not one you are going to want to miss. This is actionable advice that you are going to be able to take away and implement today. All you're going to need is a pack of tarot, and if you don't have one, this could be your invitation to go and purchase one. All right, let's get into the episode. Hello everyone, and welcome back to the podcast. As you will have heard from the introduction, and welcome back to the podcast. As you will have heard from the introduction, I have a very special guest, which feels like a really exciting moment for me, because she has been a really vital part of my own education journey when it comes to reading tarot. So I have Bridget here from Biddy Tarot. Bridget, welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to get to know you a little bit more and to ask you all of the burning questions that I have had for probably years now.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I love it. I'm excited to be here too and to like, yeah, just dive in and chat. All things Tarot.

Speaker 1:

Let's do it, okay. So I'm going to just take a straight back to where it all began for you. Could you talk a little bit about what actually got you into tarot in the first place?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, even like as a teenager, I've always been very spiritual. I've been interested in different religions. I used to wake up at four in the morning and like, do candle gazing to increase, like, my psychic abilities and so many different things? And so I think I probably was calling in tarot even before it really landed in my life. Fast forward to when I was 17, I was doing a high school exchange to Germany and before I left I thought, oh, maybe I should get a tarot reading and find out what's going to happen.

Speaker 2:

And so I went and had a reading in Sydney, in the rocks, and I remember it was like this kind of dark room, very mysterious, and this woman's sitting there and she's like, what would you want to know? And she's pulling cards. And then she pulls the emperor card and I'm like, oh, what's like? What's that mean? And she says, oh, you're going to fall in love in Germany. I'm like, oh, okay, probably tell everyone that that's a nice story. And um, lo and behold, I go to Germany and I fall in love a few times with different, different people. Um, and it was wonderful. And I got back home I thought this is cool, I want to learn this, like so I can impress my friends and all of that stuff.

Speaker 2:

But what actually happened is, as I started learning more about tarot, I started to see that there was so much more to it than just this kind of party trick or telling the future and what was going to happen.

Speaker 2:

I could see that it was this integration of all like spirituality, of religion, of self-growth, personal development, like so many things were integrating with these really powerful cards. And so even when I was studying at university I then went and did a corporate career for 15 years I always had tarot in the background because it was just lighting up this spiritual aspect of myself that wasn't necessarily being expressed in the day to day. And yeah, that's really also where Biddy Tarot began, because I started to share a lot of my insights and my learnings on a website, thinking, oh, maybe someone out there might enjoy it, you know. And then fast forward to now we've got like nearly 15 million people that visit the website every year and we've got tens of thousands of students, an amazing team around the world who support this vision. And, yeah, it's just a joy and an honor to be doing this kind of work. Yeah, it's so cool and an honor to be doing this kind of work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's so cool. I'm probably about a thousand of those Easy, like a per year those views. I'm really, really excited to go into the business growth because that in itself feels like such a huge manifestation. But I kind of want to just go back to you, know, talking about, like tarot. And it's really interesting hearing you talking about it because, um, my gran actually used to be, um, a tarot reader, I guess you could say, and she was very adamant of, like, you can only read tarot if someone gives you a deck and hands it down to you, and she actually refused to give me her tarot cards until she ended up passing away, so I ended up buying myself some.

Speaker 1:

But it did really get me thinking, like, is there a rite of passage that we have to go through to be able to do tarot? Because, like, what you're talking about feels very spiritual. You know, it sounds like there was literally like like a psychic inclination of predicting the future, and so I'm really curious if you could kind of talk about the dynamics of tarot, like, is it a spiritual connection to the divine? Is it like, what is it? How does it work?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's so interesting because I think tarot for so long has been shrouded in this like air of mystery, and you know you need to be initiated or like, have your fifth generation psychic grandma that you know does hand down the tarot cards. And while I'm sure that is, there's truth to that and there's, you know, honoring and respecting lineages, what has been my guiding light with tarot is to break free from all of that and break free from this whole idea that there are right and wrongs with tarot, because I would love to see a world where people can use tarot just to access their own inner wisdom and their intuition, that anyone can pick up a deck of tarot cards and use those cards in a really empowering way. Um, so, you know, when I started, I thought, oh, I've got to, I've got to be psychic, like, I've got to be able to talk to dead people, I've got to be able to see things, I've got to be able to predict how, like, everything's going to happen. And I put this ridiculous amount of pressure on myself to do all those things and I realized that actually that wasn't me and over time I was like hang on, I don't like, actually don't think this is what it's meant to be like with Tarot, and instead I started to adopt a more intuitive approach.

Speaker 2:

So, instead of thinking always about, like, predicting the future, I was like, okay, well, what if we actually work in the present so that that can help you not predict the future, but create your future? Not predict the future, but create your future? And how can I use my intuition to listen to my inner voice, in whatever format that comes through, whether it's through vision, through sound, through words, through feelings and so on? And yeah, over time, what tarot was really helping me to do was to drop into that space of intuition. And so now the way I see tarot is it's not that you need to be psychic to read tarot. Tarot actually helps you to become more intuitive, more connected. It's the tool that takes you there.

Speaker 2:

It's not a prerequisite to have to be intuitive in order to use tarot so long as you are open to receive that, and so that also just blows out of the water this whole idea that you know we have to have our cards gifted to us, or we have to have the psychic grandma, and so on.

Speaker 1:

that may be true, but there are other ways that we can receive this beautiful tool that will then, in turn, help us access our intuition yeah, it almost feels like a version of gatekeeping, this kind of tool that really can help with psychic developments, intuition building, but also just like getting to know yourself on a deeper level, like I think that's probably the thing that it helped me the most with was starting to understand how I was piecing things together. So could you talk a little bit more about the difference between psychic gifts, intuition, and then just like getting to know yourself, like what's the difference between all of these things or how do they interweave?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like to think of intuition a little bit like a radio frequency, like it's always there. Anyone can access it. Some people are more dialed into that frequency than others. So when you have folks who are more like, have the psychic abilities, I believe that that is just that they're more attuned to those frequencies. I also believe that anyone can start to work on attuning themselves to those frequencies so you can increase, like, your intuitive and psychic abilities.

Speaker 2:

And a lot of that does go hand in hand with personal growth and personal development. Learning more about who you are and how you show up, being willing to get into the depths of your shadows of you, know the all aspects of you. That can certainly help. You know even basic things like just cleaning up your lifestyle. You know I'm sure you've had that experience Like the more that you've embraced this new lifestyle, the more that you are attuned to receiving intuitive insights and so on. So there's many things that we can do to become more intuitive and I think the most important part is it is available to all of us, it's not just for a selected few. There are some people who are a little bit more attuned and they don't have to work as hard, but I think it's definitely possible for everyone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that you say that, because I have definitely had to work very hard at creating an intuitive connection and developing like spiritual gifts, whatever you want to call them. I was not naturally someone that did that. I used to have very vivid dreams when I was younger, and then around 16, they just completely stopped and my parents actually ended up taking me to the doctors at one stage because my dreams were so vivid. They were like there must be something wrong with you. This is getting scary. But then at one stage, because my dreams were so vivid, they were like there must be something wrong with you. This is getting scary. But then at some stage they just stopped and I think it must have been something fear related.

Speaker 1:

But it meant that when I got older I just had no connection, like I was like completely numb, couldn't sink into my intuition, had a load of like debilitating self doubt, severe anxiety, and so it took me a long time to be able to really create that connection. I'm curious what was the situation like for you when you picked up the tarot? Was it something that came quite naturally? Was it something you really had to work out?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you know, conditioning plays a really big role in all of our lives in some way or another and in different ways. So my conditioning was Having been very successful, like in the academic world. I did really well at school. I did. I've studied years and years at university. I've always done well in that environment and academia and even corporate teaches you to process information in a certain way, to learn in a certain way.

Speaker 2:

So when I got to Tarot I was like, oh well, I've been successful at school, I'll just apply the same things. I'm learning something, so why don't I do the same things? So I bought, like, all the books, I took all the notes. I would spend hours and hours studying those tarot cards, writing them down, memorizing, checking that I knew them, because that's everything that I had done at school. And then, even when I moved into corporate, you know, one of the models of success was to have like frameworks and steps, and you know everything is a linear process to the goal. So I applied that to my tarot readings. It was like you just start a reading, read the cards, read them in order, and then, you know, summarize them, and then I'm complete. But over time, step one, step two, step three yes, but what I realized is like tarot and intuition are way more attuned to the feminine energy, and feminine energy is not linear, it's cyclical and it's in flow. It's not like do this and this will happen Right.

Speaker 2:

So I had to kind of unlearn everything about how to master a new skill and I needed to then shift my whole perspective of trusting my intuition, trusting my inner wisdom.

Speaker 2:

So, instead of like pulling the cards and making sure I had interpreted them correctly and had I read all of the books and all of that stuff, I was like, oh okay, no, I have to actually feel this card. I can't think of the card. I need to feel it and I need to listen to my inner voice instead of the outer voice of what the card means. And so for me it was like a really big unraveling of how I was to interact with this world and process information. And you know that's been like 10, you know 20 years of unraveling from. You know what was kind of changed, like conditioned in those teen years and early 20s, and I suspect like just hearing your story too is that you also experienced a level of conditioning that then takes so long to like unravel it, and even if it's just like five years of conditioning, it's like 20 years of unraveling right 100%.

Speaker 1:

I've literally got chills as you're talking, cause I'm just like this is exactly what it was like being brought up in an environment where it's very masculine driven. It is very structured, you know, you go to university, you then go to corporate. You work your way up the corporate ladder. You don't think about how you're feeling, you just do the steps. It does create this rule book that then something like intuition doesn't really sit within it.

Speaker 1:

And especially, you know what, when we think about building a business which a lot of the people that are probably listening to this have a business it's very different to what you're traditionally taught you should be doing when you're building a business as well. So I kind of love to like go into that direction and talk about your business and how you actually built Biddy Tarot to be the incredible success that it is today. Were you listening to that inner voice all the time? Was that something that was such like a pivotal point of like moving it forward? Or did it start with like the more masculine approach? How did that actually start to get going?

Speaker 2:

Well, the funny thing is that I thought I was leading from intuition when I was building my business, but now I'm realizing, even though I thought I was doing, that there was still very much the masculine model, which only works in my mind to a certain point. So, for example, um, again having been successful in the corporate world, I applied that level of thinking to my business, and so I would set 12 month goals that have three year goals, and then I'd have like plans, 18 month plans, where I knew exactly what I was going to do month by month. And I'm not kidding you, I used to have, like this document that would map out hour by hour for the month ahead of what I would be doing every single hour, like because I was indoctrinated into like thinking, okay, if you want that goal, you need a plan.

Speaker 2:

Like you need the step-by-step linear A to B to get there. And I thought, oh well, I'm doing it in tarot, so I must be doing it like intuitively and everything and I was. But in hindsight I can see where I had followed a very masculine model, I think, with the intuition piece. You know, I have always trusted my intuition. It was a crazy leap of faith in 2012 when I finally decided to quit my corporate job. I'd built up a career over 15 years. I had, you know, good salary People would say it was a secure job, but I don't want to debate that. But I'd reached a point where I felt like I, you know, was just not. I didn't have that same spark that I had had in the past with my corporate career, and so I made this decision to go and pursue Biddy Tarot full time.

Speaker 2:

Now, on paper, that looks like the most insane decision. Like why would you quit a six-figure corporate career to go and be a Tarot reader? Like what are you even thinking? Breaking the mold a lot, yes, yeah. So like that really required me to listen and trust my intuition, because my intuition was going. You know what, bridget, it's all going to be fine, just do it.

Speaker 2:

You've got to follow, like, what feels good for you and so, yeah, that's that's when I left corporate, but I guess, like fast forwarding now, in these last sort of year or two, I've started to embrace a very different mindset around business and I've seen where maybe I was holding that masculine energy too strongly and instead we're really bringing in more feminine energy into the business. We are mostly like we're female led, we are mostly a female team and we work now in a much more cyclical way, in a more fluid inflow way. You know, we do some very deep work, like when we're doing strategy work. We're not just doing like planning and so on. We're talking about like, what's our personal vision, what's what's really coming through us, what's the energy and the archetypes that we are expressing through the work. That is bitty. Tarot like this is so much more than just running a business. It's. It's about who are we, you know, evolving as women and who are we transforming into, who are we becoming? I think that's what makes it just so magical yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

and did tarot play a role when you were setting up this business? Was it a part of any of the decision making processes or the building processes? I'd be so curious to hear about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've used Tarot, like always, in many different ways.

Speaker 2:

You know, even in the early days, like around goal setting, I love using Tarot to go okay, if I want, say, maybe, an income goal, and instead of just choosing that income goal, I go okay, well, what's like a really wildly ambitious income goal, what's a, you know, a growth type goal and what's conservative, and then I'll pull a card for each of those goals to tune into what is the option that is most aligned and calibrated for me.

Speaker 2:

Because a lot of this, like you know, the hype around in business is like, yeah, 10 X, your business Right. But when we look at things holistically, we realize if I 10 X, I'm going to lose. Maybe I'll lose the spirit and the soul of my business, maybe I won't get all of that time to really, you know, be in nature and to drop in. So, like, I think we've got to look holistically at goals and instead of going for what feels that is like, instead of going for what feels that is like you know, the most um, externally like amazing goal, we have to tune into what feels right for us. So that's been a big one, um, even just, you know, pulling cards. Like you know, when we're trying to choose a vendor to work with, we'll pull cards.

Speaker 1:

when we're interviewing, like pull cards, um, if something's feeling a little bit funky or off, we'll pull cards like it's just, it's constant, but not in a like, it's not in a high dependency way, but just that intuitive information flow yeah, I, I love that and I'm so curious about it because I've had some experiences with pulling tarot in my business, which, I guess, gave me the answers either gave me answers that confused me, or gave me the answers that I didn't want and it really threw me, and so there was like a period of time where I was just like I'm just not going to use tarot right now because it like threw me so much and I didn't know how to process the feelings. So I'm curious, when it comes to, like you know, decision making and that intuitive hit, what happens if you do pull a card and it doesn't give you the answer that you want? Slash, it confuses you. How do you like navigate that and deal with like the emotional stuff that comes up around that?

Speaker 2:

well, first you accidentally throw all the cards on the floor and you go, oh, oh, I lost that card. No, I have to redo. Ah, I missed that part. I've tried that. It didn't work, damn Damn.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it has happened to me a number of times where I'm like, okay, universe, I'm ready, give me like a juicy reading, like I know this is going to be amazing. And then the cards come out. It's like, oh, no, this is not good. So I I have the discipline now, like after years, of trying to ignore it and go, oh, I'll just pull another card. That one fell off the table. Um, I realized now I cannot ignore it and my discipline is that I write it down and I almost treat it as is if I'm doing that reading for a client. So if I was doing it for a client, I would note the card. I would almost like write down the exact um interpretation of that card and what it might mean, and then, you know, hand it to the client. And so the same applies for yourself.

Speaker 2:

I think when you see cards that feel a little bit like, oh, you know, didn't really want that or didn't expect it, just take note of it, because I do believe these things manifest and sometimes we're ready to see it and other times we're not. And you know, one of the examples is was a while ago when I was publishing my first book. We were my agent and I were doing the outreach and getting proposals from different publishers and I've had some really great meetings. And one of the publishers I was like, oh, this would be amazing, you know, and I thought we had a really great connection. And I pulled the cards and it was like three of swords and if you don't know tarot, it's got like three swords stabbing a heart. There's rain, clouds. It looks pretty dramatic, doesn't look great, um, and I thought, oh, what's that? Oh, I must have just done a funky, pull um.

Speaker 2:

And then for another publisher, I had this, I think maybe it was like the nine of pentacles or something really beautiful like abundant card. I was like, oh, okay, you know, that's interesting. Anyway, a few weeks later they come back with all the proposals. The publishing house I thought would be amazing Ended up, you know, sending me to a subsidiary with a very poor contract and I was like, oh, how dare they do this to me? How dare they do this to me, like you know, yeah, and, but it was so three swords, because it was like stabbed my heart um, and then the other publishing house ended up being amazing and so helpful, just like the card.

Speaker 2:

So I've definitely learned to pay attention and to write it down. Um, and here's the other thing like it's the same with manifesting and universal connection and so on is everything is here to serve us in some way, even the crappy things that happen, the painful stuff, the challenges. It's all happening for a reason and I always hold on to that and know that, like, even if I get a card that feels a bit yucky or not wanted, I know that there's a reason for that experience to be showing up for me, and so I am curious about that. I'm open-minded, I you know, observe and allow it to flow.

Speaker 1:

It's so interesting.

Speaker 1:

It feels like it's the pull and push between the ego and your intuition of like the divine guidance, like what you actually want, which ends up the ego, and your intuition of like the divine guidance, like what you actually want, which ends up the ego is kind of like the main block of manifestation really to happen.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, maybe we can kind of like pivot into talking about manifestation a little bit here, because kind of everything that we're talking about does have this element of manifestation where you know your intuition can kind of lead you in the right direction and stuff. And even with the experiences that I've had where I haven't trusted the cards or like I haven't trusted my intuition and it's created something, actually now I'm talking about it, I wonder whether that card predicted that I was going to do what I was going to do and it ended up like showing me what was going to end up happening because of my ego response anyway, just processing myself here. But I'd be so curious to hear about, like how tarot actually can be a manifestation tool and how do we use it. Like knowing that we do have this ego, with our ego being like probably the biggest block to our manifestation. How do we use it as a tool to overcome that?

Speaker 2:

yes, yeah, something that I love about tarot is that it really helps us to dive into the depths of our subconscious, where we are not necessarily consciously thinking about things day in and day out, but it's affecting us and impacting us in some way. So, when it comes to manifesting, tarot can be super powerful in things like releasing limiting beliefs, or identifying and releasing those limiting beliefs, because our conscious mind like, if you ask your conscious mind, oh, what's my limiting belief about money? Sure, you could probably get a few things out and pulling a few cards to go okay, well, what's really behind this? And I don't know, we'll just do like a play one. Oh gosh, okay, um, like, let's say, this is hypothetical only um and do not take this guide.

Speaker 1:

It's on.

Speaker 2:

So this is like the nine of wands, and this guy is kind of nervously looking over his shoulder. All these wands are behind him. He's bandaged. It's like he feels like he's sort of defensive and always having to protect himself, and so that could be really interesting. You go oh well, how does that play into my mindset around money? Am I always feeling like someone's going to come and steal all my stuff? Do I have to be so protective? And then it brings it into the conscious awareness, because until that moment it's been stored in the subconscious. And now you're going oh okay, well, that could be a thing for me. And then, when it's in our conscious awareness, that's when we can start to take action.

Speaker 2:

So tarot becomes a great tool for manifesting, because it brings up from the subconscious into the conscious mind. We can then go that's interesting, and then we can take action. We can effectively change the course of our you know destiny and our path, um, because we have this greater self-awareness of what it will really take to achieve our goals and our dreams and our desires. So, you know, it really comes back to that whole idea. Tarot is not just about predicting the future, it's about creating the future, and to me it's just an absolutely beautiful, perfect tool for manifesting, and I think it's been left out of the manifesting conversation, too for so long. Manifesting has often been about, like you know, wishful thinking or vision boards and so on, and that's nice, and I see this really great opportunity to bring tarot into the picture and use it in a really deep and profound way to help us create that future.

Speaker 1:

And so, from your perspective, when it comes into manifestation, is it really, then, about helping you make the most aligned decisions? Is it about decision making?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's definitely one aspect is to help make decisions, and here's the thing with decisions and tarot. So some people think like, oh, what should I do? Should I should, I like, leave corporate? And then you pull a card and you go, oh, it's the star card. Okay, awesome, that looks great. I will leave corporate.

Speaker 2:

And then you know it may or may not work out Right, but I think the important thing with tarot is that it's all a like, it's a mirror to the soul, it's all reflection, and so it's not going to make things happen. It doesn't make your decisions for you, but what it can do is go like if you were to say, okay, well, do I leave corporate and start my business, I get the star. Do I stay in corporate and I get the ace of cups. Well, interestingly, both cards would be considered quite positive. The star is about this kind of renewal and rebirth and, being a major arcana card, it's quite a significant energy. Ace of cups is, you know, like this beautiful emotional expression, creativity, and so the beauty of this is that you get to have the choice. You can go.

Speaker 2:

Well, which one? What experience do I most want to connect with? Am I ready for something really big and major that's like in the star, or do I simply want another opportunity to be more creatively expressed? And maybe I choose to stay in the job because that allows that? Um, so I think it helps us with decision making, it helps us with alignment. So that example I shared earlier about goal alignment and checking in to see like what feels aligned, what types of goals or intentions that you might have, what is most aligned to your higher purpose. And then that deeper self-awareness you know what's what's circulating around me right now and what do I need to clear or process, or even what can I tap into. What opportunities are there that I might not be aware of? Because it helps us see the unseen. You know, this is the that's the more mystical part of tarot is that it's tapping into a much deeper frequency. That, yeah, just helps us to see more than what's in our 3D world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, total segue here. But like is it? Does it work because our subconscious mind subconsciously knows all of the order of the cards? Or like, like, how does it actually work? Like, do we actually have any interference in that or is it just completely random? And then our subconscious looks at and just interprets whatever we pick?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think you know you can go on many levels, um, you can go really deep, and just you know, like that the cards that you choose are kind of almost like magnetically attracted to you in that moment, um, but I think also, like, when you pull the card, what happens then, I think, is what, what is most powerful.

Speaker 2:

So let's say, I've just randomly pulled the hermit card and so what's what's happening is you look at that card and you see a picture, you see symbols. You know, in this case there's an older man, he's holding a lantern, he's on a mountain, and then you're either in your rational mind, you might be pulling in information of like, oh well, when I look this up on bitty tarotcom, um, it said that the hermit means this, um, but equally, your subconscious is also speaking to you and going oh, that old man, he reminds me, like, maybe he reminds me of my granddad, and you know how, like I appreciated his wisdom and how, his sovereignty, that he was able to walk his own path. And what does that mean for me in this moment? How am I walking my own path, for example, so I think what's?

Speaker 2:

it's working on that level of the subconscious, like tapping into subconscious mind and using it as a reflection of what's going on internally. And then, if we get a little bit more magic, a little bit more woo, um, I do think that we're connecting in with a collective consciousness as well, because if I was to pull a card for you, like, how do I know what's going on in your inner psyche, that to me is this tapping into a greater consciousness, and that's probably where things get a little bit more like fluid and, for some people, harder to like grasp. Actually, I'm yeah, I think this is what I love about tarot the most is, instead of it just being like an intuitive reading where I might just be sharing things, at least we've got a card, we can go all right. Oh, this is the knight of wands. See, in the card you're making a lot of action and things are happening. So, even though we're receiving this beautiful intuitive flow luckily we've got a piece of cardboard here that has a picture on it. See, it's there. That's why it's happening.

Speaker 1:

I'm not making this up. Yes, I might be, but yeah, I love it. I've had some of my most accurate readings through tarot and I think it is because of that like interpretation aspect of things. I love the more magical um side of this. Myself, I really like the idea that we're tuning into something that like we can't see, like sometimes I just can't, you know, when you have like one of those pulls and it's just so bang on that you. It kind of almost frightens you a bit. You're like whoa, what just happened here? Like have I just gone into another dimension?

Speaker 1:

and it's those ones that, like, stay with you. Um, I wonder whether I would just love to hear some personal stories of, like, when you've used tarot to manifest something and when it maybe redirected you or, yeah, do you have anything that comes to mind like mind blowing manifestation stories?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm just trying to connect in with anything. It's kind of tricky because, like, where I'm struggling to kind of bring like a breakthrough moment is the very fact that I've used Tarot on such a daily basis.

Speaker 2:

And it really yeah it, it just it guides so much, um and yeah, I think, like just pulling, even just pulling cards, like each day, and just connecting you with my energy and thinking about you know, what is it that I want to tap into today so that I can bring like the best of myself into my business or into, yeah, like the work that I'm doing with people. I found it very intriguing to like, say, say sometimes with um team, when things are feeling out of alignment and just kind of tuning into what's like what's going on here. I've had some interesting insights there, um, and just you know that deep knowing that, like I'm pretty sure I know where this is going to go, this person will be leaving us very soon and then that happening, um, wow, interesting and you know, I think you've got to be careful, like you can't recruit and do hr with, like tarot cards only.

Speaker 2:

But it, you know, this is the thing with tarot, it is always it's just another layer of information, it's another way of accessing and contacting our intuition that we can then combine with other things. So, particularly like with business, I think it's important that we're not only making decisions off of what the card said. You know, if I had done that, I don't think I'd necessarily be always on track. I think it's important to be balancing both what we know, kind of in our conscious mind, and what our cards are telling us at the same time.

Speaker 2:

So that's a very roundabout way of not answering your question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fair enough. What is like an example of when you've gone against, or when someone should go against, what the cards are telling you, especially in relation to business?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I think it's probably more about just staying curious and open-minded. So, let's say, if I'm doing a reading or a card pull for myself where I think, oh, I don't like, what does that card even mean? What I do again is I write it down and I come back to it in a week or two weeks because, um, again, it's not. You're not necessarily when you pull these cards. You may or may not be ready to receive that message, and so if you only make that judgment in that moment of time of like this is for me or it's not for me, I think you miss an opportunity.

Speaker 2:

So always like, keep the card, always take photos of the cards, what I wrote down, and then I come back to it in a couple of weeks, particularly if it hadn't resonated then, because it's just uncanny, like what can unfold the synchronicities of like huh, okay, that's actually how it's showing up for me. So, yeah, I just, I think, always pay attention. I know it's like it's easy to go, like then didn't make any sense, or like to rush into the next thing, but the more that we can like drop in, have the time to sit with our cards, to sit with our intuition and our um, our insights, the more that we can get out of that yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

What is so? You talk about like doing daily pulls. I would love to know like, what kind of a daily one would you recommend? Because, as I sort of mentioned at the start, I actually stopped doing daily pulls a while back because, well, there was two reasons. One, I was worried I was becoming dependent on the cards and so, like I was starting to not make any decisions unless my cards told me and I was like, oh, am I starting to like outsource my power?

Speaker 1:

And then, if it was like a negative, a negative reading, it would like throw my entire day and potentially make me doubt, go into self doubt holes and everything. So that was kind of one reason. But the other reason was I don't know whether I maybe started getting like disconnected from like a certain deck like this one I feel much more connected to, but it felt like everything that I was pulling didn't quite feel right and I was like this just doesn't feel quite right and I have struggled to kind of engage in a daily practice without it getting too much in my head. I'm super curious. Number one do you have any like advice for overcoming that? But then, two, what would be like a simple daily practice that you could use. That would invite in the magic of your intuition, um without it, kind of overtaking, like every aspect of your business in your life.

Speaker 2:

Yes, great questions. And, as you were sharing, I was thinking like this is the difference between the masculine and the feminine energy, because masculine would say stay like, be disciplined, keep doing that daily pull, no matter what, like day in and day out, whereas feminine flow is a little bit more like hey, if it's not like feeling great, then don't do it. You can have, you can go through the cycles, you can have these like pauses and I think it's really good that you're honoring what you're experiencing. So if you are noticing, oh, maybe I'm being a little bit dependent on this, that's great. Like pause, um, if you're not feeling connected with your tarot deck, that's great, there's pause. Maybe you just feel like, yeah, I'm just kind of over it, I'm not getting the magic from it, maybe there's something else. I think that's all good and okay.

Speaker 2:

And in terms of like a daily practice, you know I really love being able to first drop into just your inner space without the tarot cards. So what that might look like is whether you're sitting at your altar, you're sitting in nature, even at a bus stop, like just anywhere. Just put the phone away. Five minutes is all you need, um, and just to drop in and go.

Speaker 2:

Huh, you know what's, what am I feeling, what am I experiencing in this moment? What's what am I feeling? What am I experiencing in this moment, what's alive for me at this moment, and just taking that time to tune in, and maybe you're just journaling for a little bit about what's coming up, what's feeling in flow, what's not in flow, and then just pulling a card out of that, because I think the magic is not necessarily that you've pulled a card every day. The magic is that you've actually just sat with yourself and you've sat in silence and you've actually finally listened to that inner voice. We lose so much of that, you know, these days, like it's all about the doing and rushing around. If you've got a spare one minute, even 30 seconds, I'm guilty of this grab the phone, oh what's. You know what's on Instagram or whatever it might be, and we've completely missed that opportunity to feel you know 100% I actually.

Speaker 1:

Just recently, I became so addicted to TikTok. It was like actually disgusting. Um, so I've ended up like deleting the app from my phone because it was just clouding everything Like. Honestly, addiction to phone is probably one of like my mental health got so bad so bad.

Speaker 1:

And it's so interesting how far away actually takes you from your intuition, which is so interesting. But it's also interesting hearing you talk about this, because I think, now that I'm reflecting one of the things that I do and the question that I ask the cards is what should my intention for today be? Or like, what do I need to know about today? So it's like it's almost becoming predictive.

Speaker 1:

And then if it's not something like you know, if it becomes like a negative card, then it can ruin my whole day. And so just hearing what you're saying, when you're like what's alive for me in this moment, where sorry, where it's not about um, predicting, um, something wanted to come up there, something wants to be said, um, it's so interesting because I, I think I've been trying to predict and like get guidance on what is going to happen, and then that becomes limiting in itself yes, yeah, because, okay, let's play like I've just got page of wands and let's say this is your daily card.

Speaker 2:

this can now start to appear in many different ways. So if you've, if you've said like, oh, okay, yeah, like what's coming up for me today, and it's like, oh, you're going to go on an adventure and a journey, and you go, no, I'm not, or like, maybe it's something, that you don't really like.

Speaker 2:

You know, here's the hanged man, which is often about things taking a pause or, you know, stopping for a moment and that's not always fun, and you might go oh, I don't want to like, put something on pause today, that's dumb, right. So that ends up in this like good, bad type of state. But if you do ask a question like, yeah, maybe what's a lie for me? What energy can I tap into today? Well, now things get interesting. You go all right page of ones. Is there something new that I could explore today? Like, even just to set it as an activity, even if you hadn't even been thinking of doing anything new, just go, okay. Well, maybe it's a journal activity. What are some new activities I could do? Right? Or even the hanged man, like where is where's pause and suspension showing up for me right now? Is there something that I need to pause you? Where, where could I pause?

Speaker 1:

and so using it more as like a theme for the day and a theme for just self-inquiry and exploration, just different, right yeah, it feels like it's the difference between, like a question, like it's like a question for you, versus a statement for you, like this is going to be your day versus what is this in your day question mark, and that becomes like a lot more open, like even that in itself feels so much more aligned, like I'm.

Speaker 1:

You know, um this week I've got like a lot on and so I pulled actually was an oracle card um at the start of the week and it was like just rest and I was like no like.

Speaker 2:

That can't be my intention for the week Stuff needs to get done.

Speaker 1:

So I just like threw the card away. I was like you're not helping me right now, but if I changed it to be like where can you add in rest during this week, now it makes a lot more sense, you know. So I love that shift, that's so interesting, do you? Find that people, sorry, you go. I think there's a little bit of a delay.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I was just going to reflect back, like even to notice where the resistance comes up. And what does that mean for you? Why is it that you saw the card of rest and you're like hell, no, I'm not resting this week, just go. Oh, that's interesting that I'm having such a strong reaction. You know, is this because I actually need and crave more rest, but I feel like I can't? Or is there? You know, how is this playing out for me? So, again, I'd always just like I always like to observe myself having the experience and kind of look down and go why is that all happening that way?

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's so good and, yeah, it's so interesting. When I feel like I've got a lot of moving parts around, I definitely I've got that old wound of like masculine hustle. You know, you, very similar like background to you, used to be in corporate as well. I think you started Biddy Tarot alongside your corporate career, didn't you?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah yeah like I came from a similar background for that. So I still have some of these things that I'm like processing through, which is like if you, if you're on, you're on, you don't rest, you know, you just work through it and I'm really having to like soften that as I go um, but it's so interesting. I'm curious to know as well, like when you are um. So daily we got like the daily pull for what's feeling alive in the moment. That's great reframe for me.

Speaker 1:

But when it comes to making a decision, you spoke about potentially pulling two cards for each like option, what would be some like pulls that someone could use if they have like a big decision to make or if they wanted to find even just alignment. And it wasn't like a decision, because actually there's something that I'm currently navigating through at the moment which requires it's an alignment piece and there's like an underlying decision there. But I'm curious, what pull would you suggest for me to find clarity?

Speaker 2:

would you be willing to share a little bit more? We can, like pull a couple of cards and see what happens yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

Let's do it okay. Oh my gosh, this is exciting. Okay, so I have, um, my main business, which everyone knows, the Hayley Lloyd coaching, and in that I have the house of authority. And I have a new business that I'm starting which is basically going to be bringing an app into the world, and I've started developing the app. I have a background as, like, an app designer, so, like, this is like a 10 year dream for me and, finally, it's like, affordable enough where I can build the app.

Speaker 1:

And I'm trying to find a good balance between these two things and these two aspects of like myself and where I'm going and where I should be focusing more of my energy. I think intuitively, I know, but it feels I have quite a lot of ego around it, I guess, and a lot of um, attachment and like based on past experiences. It's kind of keeping me, maybe, from seeing the truth or the honesty of the situation, but it's it's causing me to kind of stop making decisions in the future because I I feel stuck in what I've always been doing. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so what are the? What are the exact choices that you are making? Is it around? Exact choices that you are making? Is it around? Is it one or the other? Is it both? What? Yeah, what does that look like?

Speaker 1:

So it looks like do I do both of these things.

Speaker 1:

And do they both support each other? Do I all continue doing everything that I've been doing, that I still really, really love to do, or do I go fully in on this other venture and you know there's an opportunity to potentially go into an accelerator and actually build the app through an accelerator um, but that, you know, feels like it would be like a big upheaval of, like, my time and everything that I'm currently doing and I'm trying to figure out, like, what the right path is Like. Should I, even with the app there's decisions around that Like, should I be outsourcing and getting other people's help, or should this be something that I build myself before bringing other people in? Yeah, Awesome.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, just to keep it kind of simple, the thing that I always ask, like when I'm facing these kinds of decisions, is what might I experience if you know? What might I experience if I try and manage?

Speaker 2:

both what might I experience if I go all in on the app and um, so we'll just we'll play that game for now. So this was a six of pentacles reversed if you are trying to do both. And I think what's interesting about this and I'll get your reflections too is I notice in this upside-down position the coins feel like they are dropping and he's trying to serve these two people but it's not sticking. It's almost like you can't give in the way that you really want to give. Let me see what is kind of what's showing up for you when you look at this card yeah, kind of the same.

Speaker 1:

Like it's interesting whenever a pentacles card comes up for me, especially if it's reversed, it feels like something isn't going to be clicking financially, like which. That's always like an association that I have where it's not um, it almost feels like I might not lose money but it's not going to be the most abundant solution for me potentially long term and I could you put the card a little bit that way, just so I can see it a little bit more fully. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, I see what you're meaning about like the balancing um aspect as well, like it does, kind of feel like it's like I'm trying to and that's kind of what's coming up for me.

Speaker 1:

It's like, how do I balance these two things and pour into both at the same time? Yeah, yes, yeah interesting.

Speaker 2:

And here's the thing you might. You might go like, oh, that's bad, I don't like that, um, but so what you can do with that, like the empowering piece to that, is to go okay, well, if I ended up deciding that I still want to do both. Well, this is great information. Maybe I need a plan for how I can balance my time across both how I can balance my financial investments, how I balance my money. So, actually, even though it might not be a so-called desirable outcome, it gives you a starting point to how can you turn it into your favour, knowing what you're stepping into. How can you turn that into your favour, you know? And then I'll just share the app one. So this is interesting.

Speaker 2:

This is the Five of Swords Hopefully that's in the center for you there, and we try to do this to shield the light. It shows like a man with he's holding a sword, two swords, and it's like a battle has just been fought and the swords are on the ground and it's almost like I see this come up when it's like a win-lose, you can't have it all type situation and there's something that you almost have to like leave behind or it's not. Yeah, it's just not unicorns and rainbows, it's something where almost like it's a conflict between two things, because I also think that, like fives, if you look at that numerologically, it is right in the middle and it's neither here nor there. Yeah, it's in that change spot. So, again, it's not like a really outcome, but it's where you can make some choices about well, does that, do I want that, am I willing to accept that, and so on. What do you see in that?

Speaker 1:

I see that it will and and I feel this for this project, it's going to be it's not going to be a short project Like this, is going to be a long project and I think it's going to probably be a passion project. And I do think that if I went full in on this app immediately, there would be a period like it would be a battle Like. And if I went into the accelerator, it feels like it would be it would be a battle like. And if I, you know, went into the accelerator, it feels like it would be it would be hard, it would be really hard, probably too hard, and that's where it currently feels, um, even intuitively. And so I think I have, like this undercurrent, like desire of like, oh, if everything was perfect and I just went down that road, like that would be amazing. But I also know that it's not as straightforward as that.

Speaker 1:

Building an app is really hard and it takes a lot of work and I think there's probably like an in-between, which is why now, like even the balancing, both and the balance, I'm like, well, yeah, of course, of course it's going to be a balance, but maybe that is actually more of what I want than you know going in and just having struggle for, like you know, because it will be a startup. It's going to be a startup.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's kind of what I'm feeling from it.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. And then you know, if you had those two cards and you're like I feel a little bit unresolved at the moment, then I would always like just pull another card. Is there something else? Is there another alternative that I'm not yet seeing and that could actually, yeah, be more attractive? What is it that I'm not seeing? It's interesting. Queen of pentacles. Um, and I think this is a very like self-nurturing card of like you know what do you really desire and call in for your career, your finances and and so on, like what is truly speaking to you, and I would really sit with her for a while and just kind of speak with her, and this is what I love to do with Tara is like have a conversation with that card. Go all right. Queen of pentacles, if you were in my position, what would you do? What are some different options? How should I navigate this and just let her, like, speak to you in that?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I love that. I'm gonna sit with that because it feels like it's it's. It is a very nurturing card for well, how I see it anyway, for like really sitting and thinking about like financially, materially, like where do I want to go, what's going to be the most nourishing? Um, and I don't think I really have, like, I think I subconsciously know, like even through this, it's giving me like quite a lot of clarity of like what I think I want to do versus like what I actually want to do, and I think I do actually want to continue holding both of these spaces and just like really manage that balance. But I don't know, maybe there is another option that I'm not seeing right now.

Speaker 2:

Well then, that's the final specific well, the final piece to this is like I always look at the bottom of the deck after I've done, you know, a few card readings, because the bottom of the deck is like what's really underlying all of this, it's a bit like the secret to it all.

Speaker 2:

And this is the card I have it's the five of pentacles and it shows two like beggars outside of a church and they're out in the cold, but in the church the light is on. And this is kind of a bit of that martyrdom of like, oh, poor me, I'm all alone and I have to do this all by myself. But it's like they're right out in front of the church which could just give them the warmth, the food and you know the protection that they need. And so I'd be asking yourself of like you know, where am I playing into this sort of martyrdom, feeling like why do I? Where am I saying like I'm all on my own with this? Maybe there is a greater level of support that you haven't yet fully accessed? Um, and what would that look like? And particularly, you know, with queen of wands as your sorry queen of pentacles as your guide, like who is she? Who is she the one that's in the church able to support you, or is she your inner resource as well that could support you on this journey?

Speaker 1:

oh my gosh, there is so much for me to unpack here. This is so good and um. So, just to recap, that went like so you pull a card for each option. Um, then you pull a card for is there anything that I'm not seeing? And then you check the bottom of the pack to have a look at you know what's underneath it all, and then you create a story out of all of those yeah, I think you know that gives you some good insight and information.

Speaker 2:

And, um, you'll notice like we didn't just interpret the cards oh, that card means this, and you know you're stuffed, that kind of thing. But we use, like, the cards to then create this self-inquiry, to go deeper, to access these archetypes, these resources that can actually open up a part of ourselves that could probably navigate this even better, you know, than what we're doing in this moment. I always look for, you know, like court cards are beautiful archetypes, major arcana cards. They're all here to guide us in some way in a particular like energy flow, and if we are able to embody their energy, then we can often solve things that maybe we couldn't necessarily solve on our own yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

And how does time play into these? Like readings. So, for example, like when we were just doing that, I was thinking, you know, this is kind of like an immediate um response, but actually you know the would the reading potentially look quite different if you then redid the same question in like six months time? Or do those things kind of like shift and change and like how do we see time play into this?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think, like, in terms of like rereading on the same topic, I always suggest, like, wait until something has happened, you know something significant, because otherwise you kind of just keep consulting on the same question, you're really just trying to get the cards that you want, uh, or you know, like, typically after a month or two, things have started to shift and evolve and you might have another check-in, um, and then, in terms of like you know, when will this happen? When will this manifest? Of course, we all want to know that, but what I've realized over time is that the universe doesn't really follow a very, you know, specific timeline, um, and things just evolve at their own pace. Um, every now and then I've had insight where it has been like okay, I'm pretty sure it's going to be happening in November, like I don't know why, I know that, but I just know it.

Speaker 2:

But most of the time I don't believe that there is a set time. I think it's more about the sequence of events that need to unfold in order for something to happen, and so some of the questions you can ask are things like what are some of the green lights? I'll see when it's about to manifest, or what are the red flags if I'm actually on off track. You know some different ways to go about timing yeah, oh, my god, okay, I love this.

Speaker 1:

Um, okay, I want to talk a little bit about because you have a brand new book that's coming out called intuitive manifesting and, um, you know, when I was reading the page about this, because it hasn't yet released. It's out in October, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it's intuitive manifesting with tarot and actually, really, like you know, this whole conversation is actually something I haven't really considered before, you know, with tarot being an aspect of manifesting, but I'd love to hear a little bit more about the book and, like, the inspiration behind the book and, you know, what can we expect from it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, like I feel like I've been intuitively manifesting my whole life and it isn't really until now that I've put a framework around it, a kind of you know a way, a more practical way of explaining what it is that I've used throughout my whole life.

Speaker 2:

So that's really where intuitive manifesting came about. Also, you know, I've tried so many different manifesting techniques. I've tried the goal setting as well, and you know, as I shared earlier this in this interview, is just like trying so hard to follow a certain model but it not ever really, you know, coming out the way that I wanted it to. Or I might, you know, like you might achieve the goal and then go, huh, that wasn't really what I wanted anyway. Or like you give up halfway because it's not manifesting the way you wanted it to. Um, and so I think what is really missing in a lot of these manifesting methods and approaches is we're missing things like intention, being really clear about what it is that we intend to create, what is it that is our desire. We're missing alignment. So what is it that is aligned to me, but also to my highest, you know, highest good, higher purpose, not what I think that everyone else will think is awesome or what's going to look great on instagram, but really, what do I truly want? And then that final piece is the action. And you know, this is where it goes beyond just wishful thinking and we can actually step into a place of taking action not just any action either, because, again, this is where alignment and intention come in, because we want to take action that is aligned with our higher purpose and aligned with our truest intention. So that's kind of the fundamentals of intuitive manifesting.

Speaker 2:

In the book I talk about the four steps of intuitive manifesting and you know, if you look at just those four steps which is around like picture your perfect future, become an energetic match, break free from limiting beliefs and really amplify your results those alone are kind of like oh yeah, that's kind of interesting, you know.

Speaker 2:

But what really makes the difference is what you do inside of each of those, and you know we've tapped on a few of these different tarot techniques of connecting in with intuition and inner wisdom, because it's those things that make this real difference of like, okay, when you are picturing your perfect future, are you just dreaming up what you think is going to be awesome or are you dreaming up what is really your soul's calling and how can you use these intuitive tools that are available to you to really connect with that part of yourself.

Speaker 2:

Even in the step two, when we talk about the energetic match, I also talk about how we can use tarot as a way of aligning with certain archetypes, like, just for you, queen of Pentacles, how can I bring in this Queen of Pentacles energy into my manifesting? You know when I think about what I want to do next, how do I do it as the Queen of Pentacles. So, anyway, lots of juicy stuff inside of the book and I, because we haven't been able to go through all of the steps together. However, I do have a special gift for your audience, which is the four steps to intuitive manifesting, and you can go and download those over at bitytarotcom. Forward slash, four steps and free access to that. You can learn more about how these four steps really come into play with your manifesting journey.

Speaker 1:

I love that. It sounds like it's a really good, well thought out way of like really tuning in with the universe, because I think a big missing piece that a lot of people feel is like manifestation can feel a little bit unstructured, like how do I know you know how I'm actually going with this, how do I know what's blocking me? So actually going with this, how do I know what's blocking me? So this sounds like amazing. I love the idea of like the archetypes as well. I will add in all of the information about the four steps to intuitive manifesting down below in the comments, roughly what can people expect going into and downloading that? Four steps of manifesting?

Speaker 2:

Well, the guide will walk you through each of those four steps and what it really entails and what it really means to picture your perfect future or become the energetic match. So definitely have a look at that, and then also you'll get some information about the upcoming book. So October 22nd is when that is launching and either available now for pre-order or, depending on when you're listening to this, it might already be in the bookstores, which would be awesome, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm so excited, bridget, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you so much for the reading. I feel like I've got to go and like decompress and like absorb it all then, but that was so brilliant, and thank you for just shifting my perspective on a lot of things as well, and I know that this is going to be so, so, so valuable. Um, where can people find you on Instagram as well, or like your socials?

Speaker 2:

yeah, you can follow us over at bitty tarot and uh, yeah, we actually do like on Instagram. We've got some really cool spreads that people absolutely love. So if you want to kind of get in with your tarot cards and start pulling cards, we do things like full moon, new moon spreads and all kinds of things. So definitely check out, yeah, at Biddy Tarot, and then, of course, biddytarotcom is where we have all of our tarot card meaning resources. We've got online courses, certification in tarot books, tarot decks, you name it, it's all there.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Thank you so much for sharing, Bridget. To wrap up, what one piece of advice or insight would you give to anyone that is wanting to tap into their intuition today? As a parting piece of advice?

Speaker 2:

I really believe that it comes through silence and just sitting with yourself. So if you can even just find five minutes of silence just to sit, even like right after this episode, you know, press pause before the next one comes on and just take five minutes and go and tune in and go. Okay, you know how am I feeling this moment, what's alive for me, what am I calling in. You will just appreciate it so much and it will probably change the whole energy of the entire day just from those five minutes.

Speaker 1:

I love that, such magical advice. Thank you so much for joining me today, bridget, and it's been such a pleasure, such an honor. And thank you guys so much for tuning in. If you enjoyed this episode, please make sure to leave a review and a rating. Tag us both on social media on Instagram, at Hayley June Lloyd, and let us know what you thought. Send us a message. We appreciate it so much and I will see you guys in the next episode. If you enjoyed this episode, please make sure to leave a rating and a review and send us a message on instagram. Tag me at hayley june lloyd and let me know that you were listening to this on your instagram stories, or send me a message directly and let me know your biggest takeaways. It always means so so much to me. All right, guys, I'll see you in the next one.